ADA Diaries of Alabama
A Vote for Justice
Community Prompt:
I urge Congress to enact, and the President to support and to sign, legislation such as the Americans with Disability Act of 1988, which will effectively protect all persons with disabilities against discrimination on basis of handicap.
I, furthermore, urge the establishment of those basic human support systems necessary to make rights real in every day life, and which will enable all people with disabilities to achieve their full potential for independence, productivity and quality of life in the mainstream of society.
I have personnally experienced and/or observed the following discrimination against people with disabilities:
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Respondents
Kitty Douglas / Georgia Ann Bailey / Gerald J. Layman / Tammy Adams / Michael Kingsmore / James Gibson / Elizabeth Ray / Alan Lynn Bowers / Joseph R. Lambert / Sylvia Windsor / James Windsor / Louise C / Alabama Citizen / Jennifer McKay / Amy G. / James A. Hare / James McKay / Louise C. Hums / Chris Franks / Deborah Gibson / Elizabeth /Judy Matthews / Patricia Johnson / James Roberts / Brenda Carson / T.K. Bridges / Rodney Trimble / Clarence R. / Ray Bledsoe / Warren Mason
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Kitty Douglas
“We don’t want those (mentally ill) people living in our neighborhood.”There is discrimination in city laws in regard to group housing for the mentally ill; it’s hard to locate sites for housing. As an advocacy group, we will continue to work for the rights of the mentally ill and their families. We have influenced legislation—we’ll continue to do so.
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Georgia Ann Bailey
One serious example of discrimination that especially has affected me is the absence exercise equipment designed for disabled individuals at the University of Alabama.There are a number of disabled students attending the University of Alabama who have expressed concerns and no means of equipments available to those who have the same desire to be physically fit comparatively as those individuals without disabilities. In a country that promotes fitness, why must a disabled individual/student of the U. of A. be denied the right and achieve their own level of fitness?
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Gerald J. Layman
As a rehabilitation counselor my clients who are still in secondary school have no teachers in the county vocational school trained in working with/helping EMH of SLD students
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Tammy Adams
As a rehabilitation professional working with deaf adults, I have seen much discrimination due to lack of understanding and lack of legislation encouraging and enforcing the rights of the disabled. Examples of this discrimination are court appearances without interpreter services, lack of appropriate housing (a great need) and many other situations.
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Michael Kingsmore
Access to public services, jobs for hearing impaired, many, many barriers still exist in communication!Flagrant violation of Civil Rights of hearing impaired on policy actions of the local police ,courts of law, medical care facilities, and jobs. I am the father of a profoundly hearing impaired daughter and am employed with the V.A. Regional Office in Montgomery to manage case files of disabled veterans in training and job placement.Membership:
1.) Attorney General’s Commission on Protection of Rights of Persons with Disabilities.
2.) Governor’s Committee for Employment of People with Disabilities.
3.) Registered interpreter for the hearing impaired. -
James Gibson
I work in a barrier free prototype library for the blind and physically handicapped which our patrons cannot reach by public transportation. The mayor of city of Montgomery has refused to make said transportation available.
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Mrs. L.L. Wiles
My son has been refused training in two workshops.He has been home for six years with nothing to do. The Pigman Center blames mental health and mental health blames Pigman Center. In the meantime, what happens to my son? -
Elizabeth Ray
Because of my disability of Cerebral Palsy I was discriminated against by denial into the public school system in 1963. My parents fought and I finally entered on probation only to have to prove myself again in 1967 in order to achieve an education.
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Alan Lynn Bowers
I work in the Supported Employment Program at United Cerebral Palsy of Greater Birmingham. Part of what we do is assist these individuals in arranging their transportation to and from work once we find employment for them.
Due to the very limited availability of public transportation for the handicapped, we have had numerous headaches, have had to negotiate special working hours for our clients (which differentiates them from their co-workers) and have had to resort to our clients utilizing the kindness of friends and co-workers to get to and from work because public transportation could not get them there.
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Joseph R. Lambert
Accessibility to public buildings and services, Lack of access to public transportation, Employer discrimination, Lack of housing that is accessible -
Sylvia Windsor
Many public facilities still are not handicapped accessible– doors are not wide enough, restrooms are not accessible, etc. Also, handicapped parking in many places is not designed with wheelchairs in mind. My son meets many obstacles in pursuing his education. Although campus is handicapped accessible, adjacent areas that are not school property are not. There are no provisions for food service on campus during the weekend. No public transportation is available for wheelchairs on campus that we are aware of at this time. -
James Windsor
Many times I have encountered obstacles in public (i.e. bathroom doors too narrow.) Also, employers need to be required to give equality of opportunity to persons with disabilities. This bill has teeth which enforce employers to give “disabled people” the equality of opportunity.
Also, when I was young, my mother had to fight to even get me into public school.Also, in regard to transportation, it was several years before I and other “disabled” classmates got a bus that was built with a lift. Until then, we had to just get on a regular bus the best way we knew how.The bottom line: 200 years of the founding fathers in this country said, “All men are created equal”. Isn’t it about time we give the disabled, physically and mentally, the basic right they are entitled to? I say “Yes!” I urge you to pass this bill as is. It must have the teeth to be enforceable.
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Louise C
I do not have a disability but I am involved with volunteer work with people with emotional illnesses. Many of these people are able and capable of holding down a job. They have confided with me of their being refused employment because they have an emotional illness. If they could work they would not require SSI or SS.
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Alabama Citizen
I am overweight and get discriminated against because of heaviness.I see non-handicapped people park in handicapped parking and not get tickets. I am working with the mentally ill and see lots of astigma attached to their trying to find jobs, employees do not want to hire them. Employees want to hire them at lowest wage possible. -
Jennifer McKay
Architectural barriers is a great injustice and discrimination on both private and public property. Attitudinal barriers Employment Discrimination
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Amy G.
I have observed the following examples of discrimination against people with disabilities:-People with disabilities are denied affordable, accessible, safe housing.
-People with disabilities are denied affordable, accessible transportation.
-Housing should be the least restrictive environment for the individual.
-People with disabilities often are seen as children, children who should be taken care of; they are not given the opportunity to take responsibility for their lives. -
James A. Hare
I have worked with people who have disabilities for eight years. One of the greatest needs I have discovered is that of appropriate housing for people who are more severely handicapped.
Without appropriate housing, people are unable to be fully employed and fully functioning member of society. -
James McKay
Architectural Barriers
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Louise C. Hums
I do not have a disability but I am involved with volunteer work with people with emotional illnesses. Many of these people are able and capable of holding down a job. They have confided in me of their refused employment because they have an emotional illness. If they could work they would not require SSI or SS.
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Chris Franks
Mr. Dart, I will follow with a letter of my experiences in the near future.
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Deborah Gibson
I have had someone who I have trained placed over me because I am visually impaired. My immediate supervisor said he could not promote me because I was visually impaired. -
Elizabeth
Jefferson County Board of Education Birmingham Board of Education Westwood Baptist Church County Chapel Methodist Church I will write letter.
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Judy Matthews
I use a wheelchair for mobility and have been told I was a fire hazard at entertainment events where there was no seating for disabled. -
Patricia Johnson
Dual Systems for disabled person example:
A blind person can work and receive a much larger amount of workable income and keep this disabilities pensions reduced and total cut off.
I’m a paraplegic and not allowed to make more than minimal income and keep my disability. Also, I have problems with meeting my medical needs because after my V.A. disability was raised I was taken off SSI which also resulted in me no longer being qualified for Medicaid. Housing law quoted in HUB booklets called section 504 doesn’t exist here in Birmingham.I and many others would like to see apartments built for the handicapped with children as well as safe areas to live. I would like to see homes built for handicapped that will also be in a sage area. I would like to see more handicapped persons employed in all government and that determine what is paid to handicap people and determine where they should live and what they need.
I am interested in working in any areas that will help promote equal rights for the handicap. I’m a nurse with a Master’s Degree, I’m a typist with my own electric IBM typewriters. I also have an Associate’s Degree in Business Administration.
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James Roberts
While attending seminary in Kentucky, a friend and fellow seminarian worked at a shoe store as a sales clerk to help support he and his wife during his seminary education.
He came to this store with previous experiences and proved to have good salesmanship.He was dismissed from his job when his employer discovered he had epilepsy (even though seizure activity was infrequent and very mild). This was obviously discriminatory and in-excusable , but not unusual for this friend of mine. -
Brenda Carson
As an employment specialist in Supported work I have seen employers over and over refuse interviews with clients who more than meet the requirement for the positions that are open.
Many time “stall” tactics are used.The only obstacle in the way most of the time are the physical disability which can be assisted through supported and rehab engineering. I have heard what a marvelous job one of my clients is doing on a job from everyone except the immediate supervisor who is working under excessive hours and pressure. Many times clients are discriminated against in terms of transportation. No client we have can work 40 hours because no transportation is available before 8:00 a.m. or after 4:30 p.m. and many time not available at all or all filled up. -
T.K. Bridges
Industrial discrimination against the back injured. This group of disabled citizens are terminated from employment with no hope of being reinstated. The back injured find it difficult to purchase health insurance.
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Rodney Trimble
I feel I have not received equal employment advancement at Steelcase Inc., Athens, AL. Job Title: Hand Tool Repairman
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Clarence R.
Tax exempt number for non-profit cooperative housing.
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Ray Bledsoe
Dear Mr. Dart,
My friends and I attended a basketball game in Homewood, Alabama. After the game we went to a McDonald’s in Homewood to eat. We were unable to eat there because there were no ramps for us to use. We had to drive several miles to find a place to eat which was accessible. -
Warren Mason
Was on B-16 Refund Employment because of being manic/depression.
Authors
Barbara Crozier / Toby D. Leamon / Terry Ramsey / Phyllis Weeks / Rinnie Eustice / Kim Mitchell / Ronnie Eustice / Sam Rittenberg / Mike Holsombeck / H. Milton Datnoff
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Barbara Crozier
I’m Barbara Crozier, Director of Attorney General Don Siegelman’s Alabama Disabled Persons Protection Commission established to address the issues of disability rights.
The general public and the people who make laws, enforce laws, and formulate public policy see the International symbol of Accessibility and believe they have taken care of the needs of the disabled population.The calls our office receives daily and my own, experiences cry out that we need improved accessibility to jobs, housing, public and mass transportation, education, voting and recreation; that we need comprehensive health care, public accommodations, improvements in communication, institutionalization, and access to public services. Callers to my office reported that the blue access symbol stood outside the buildings where the following instances of discrimination took place: A man, called to testify in court, had to get out of his wheelchair and physically pull himself up three flights of stairs to reach the courtroom where he stayed all day with no accessible restroom.
Yet discrimination continues.A blind woman, a new resident to Alabama, went to vote and was refused instructions on the operation of the voting machine. A hospital refused to allow an interpreter to accompany a deaf patient in the examination room. Is this reasonable accommodation or discrimination?These examples cannot be answered with the rhetoric of reasonable accommodation but rather must be dealt with as an issue of discrimination. Even the published standards and guidelines which established the use of the access symbol which were adopted by the Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board, the American National standards Institute and by state Fire Marshals–even these standards–are discriminatory. These minimum guidelines provide access for disabled people who have full range of motion and use of their upper arms and shoulders.
Today medical and technological advances allow many people with quadriplegic disabilities, which include limited arm extension, the opportunity to enter the work force. However, minimum guidelines prevent these same individuals from using switches, electrical outlets, thermostats, tissue and towel dispensers and racks, restroom facilities, and the list could go on and on and on.
That’s discrimination.For instance, these guidelines present three basic designs for restroom stalls and show three respective methods of wheelchair transfers. One design is recommended as providing access to the majority of disabled people. However this design, which requires more floor space, is rarely chosen by architects, contractors and owners. The cheaper design is almost uniformly chosen.This discriminatory choice, based on economics not equality, restricts many people with quadriplegic disabilities from using restroom facilities. Discrimination based on disability must stop. A personal reference to make a point: I have to drive home to use the bathroom or call my husband to drive in and help me because the newly renovated State House in which I work is not accessible to me. It’s accessible to paraplegic, but not quadriplegic, staff and visitors. I can’t sue the state because it complied with minimum standards, and the word minimum. But is this reasonable accommodation?
Can you picture Senator Dole as a quadriplegic working under these conditions?Can you imagine the phone call? -Hi Elizabeth, honey, I’ve gotta go. Can you rush down and help another personal reference: in 1981 as a student teacher, in order to use the bathroom, I had to buy a commode seat extender and an additional manual wheelchair with a zipper back for transferring–at a cost of $2,000. I’ve heard of pay toilets, but this is ridiculous: The point I make with these embarrassing personal references is simple. Federal and state guidelines must be rewritten to include people with quadriplegic mobility impairments–indeed, to include all people with disabilities.The disabled population–that’s you and you and you and me–must unite to ensure that steps are taken to increase the enforcement of existing laws, to force the passage of legislation to prohibit discrimination based on disability, and THROUGH OUR NUMBERS to convince the public and elected officials that our very existence as people merits our equal treatment Discrimination based on disability must stop:
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Toby D. Leamon
Mr. Dart,
I have been a paraplegic for 18 years.After attending the University of Alabama in Birmingham for 1 year following my injury, I attended the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa for 4 years, where I earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Civil Engineering. Upon graduation I was hired as a Civil engineer and I have served in increasing levels of professional responsibility for the past 13 years.I hope this experience, both as a handicapped individual and as a professional, qualify me to speak regarding the Americans with Disabilities Act.In the past 18 years I have seen tremendous advances in accessibility and public awareness of the needs of the handicapped. Where once, whether due to public attitude or the lack of accessibility, paraplegics seldom ventured from home, now we are regularly seen in public and on television, participating both professionally and athletically alongside able-bodied individuals.Yet there are still many advances to be made and, sadly, ground has been lost in some areas.Funds for rehabilitative education, without which I would not have been able to attend college, have been cut or restricted. State and Federal government has apparently decided to bet against the future productivity of their handicapped citizens.
And some of the remaining prejudices in public attitude may take generations to overcome, if ever. It is because of the prevalence of this often unconscious bias that I am pessimistic of the potential for the success of legislative measures designed to mandate equal employment opportunity for the handicapped. You will remember that, before, I said that it was not now unusual to see paraplegics participating with able-bodied individuals. Participating, but not, unfortunately, often competing.
In athletic competition the reasons for this are obvious. In the professional world, however, the reasons often are not as clear. A large portion of the handicapped population, if they are fortunate enough to be employed, are underemployed or work in fields related to rehabilitation, where they may feel more accepted. Outside of the rehabilitative professions they may be hired, and allowed to participate, but not allowed to truly compete. They are restricted by a kind of benign protects, which may or may not be conscious on the part of their employers.
The attitude seems to be, little desire to hire the handicapped, but no one would want to work for them, or we want to give them employment, but we cant let them have too much visibility, because our clients might be uncomfortable dealing with them.” These are very subtle. but significant biases. They are often difficult to recognize and even more difficult to prove because they may be so easily disguised. Providing equal opportunity in obtaining employment does not mean equal opportunity to succeed and that is what is so desperately needed.
Equal opportunity for the handicapped will not be achieved when it is no longer considered unusual or ground-breaking for the handicapped to be in professional positions but when they have become so integrated within the professional world as to be unnoticeable for anything but their professional achievements.
This level of acceptance may not happen for many years.I hope however that it will and despite my reservations. I hope very much that the provisions of the Americans with Disabilities Act will help to facilitate the acceptance of the handicapped, not only by the public but by business and industry. Acceptance not merely as participants but as leaders. -
Terry Ramsey
To Mr. Dart,
I am very concerned about transportation. A lot of times in the past when I wanted to go to school the buses didn’t pick me up because I am in a wheelchair and the buses were not equipped for wheelchairs. I feel that this is discrimination for disabled people. I think that everybody should deserve a chance. I don’t care who it is, I think that everybody should have a chance to go to school. I have Cerebral Palsy, and I would like to get an education. This is not possible without transportation. Please take this in consideration. -
Phyllis Weeks
Dear Mr. Dart:
I am writing this letter concerning a transportation problem that happened to me this week.I’m planning on going to college and to get there, I would have to use public handicapped transportation. We have a new system in this city. When I called for my reservation they told me they couldn’t go out that far. Where I want to go is in their service area.The excuse that they gave me is that they didn’t want to take just one person out that far, but since the College is accessible for disabled people the situation leaves me to believe that more disabled students will be going to this college.
To get any results to this problem I had to call the Executive Director of this system.
I am very much in favor of the American Disabilities Act of 1988, and I surely hope that it can get passed for disabled people everywhere. We’ve come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. Thank you for your time and effort for helping disabled people. We can use all the support we can get as disabled people.
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Rinnie Eustice
Dear Mr. Dart,
My name is Rinnie Eustice, I live in the Gerry Fullan House for Cerebral Palsy in Birmingham, Alabama.I am writing this letter on behalf of my brother, Roger Eustice, who also has Cerebral Palsy. Roger is on the Homebound Program, and I would like to see this bill pass because Roger only gets five hours of homebound care per day. Roger is 44 years old and I am very concerned with his falling health status which causes him to need more Homebound time than he is being given.If given more hours it would give my sister more freedom to live her own life.I hope to see this bill pass so it can help people like Roger, because is something happens to my sister I think he will have to be put into a nursing home, because there will be no other option for him.I was at the forum on August 16, 1988, and it was very informing to me and the other disabled people who were there. Getting back to Roger, within the past couple of weeks Roger has been very ill causing us to have to think even more about placing him into a nursing home and my sister is in bad health herself. Because we are living on a fixed income we cannot afford to place him in a nursing home. The cheapest nursing home cost about $ 1,200.00 per month.
This is really a big concern to me and I am glad to have had this chance to express myself and my feelings about my brother. I just want to thank you for your time and effort that you have put into getting this bill passed. May God bless and keep you through the rest of your journey in and around the United States.
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Kim Mitchell
Dear Mr. Dart,
I would like to take this time to express myself. I feel like me and other people have been discriminated against because of our disability.There have been places that I wanted to attend to but there were too many steps that I wasn’t able to handle. For example, a church convention that people have yearly.Also a musical concert a place where they have a lot of steps before you even get inside.I would like to express myself at the hearing but I will not be able to attend.
Please take all these letters into consideration that you will recieved when you come to Birmingham. Thank you for your time and patience. If you have any questions,Please don’t hesitate to call or write. I’m just greatly concerned about making a disability an ability for the future. Thanks again
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Ronnie Eustice
Dear Mr. Dart,
I encounter the following barriers in using all the services in my neighborhood.
These barriers are as follows:1) The local grocery store does not have an accessible restroom. Food items are out of my reach.
2) Entrance doors at the local banks and post office are heavy and difficult to open from an wheelchair.
3) The local pizza shop does not have a ramp so my friends and I are unable to go there.
4) The aisles of the local dollar store are extremely narrow and difficult to maneuver in a wheelchair.I plan on being at the Public Forum held in Birmingham on August16, 1988. Thank you for your time and consideration regarding this testimony. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
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Sam Rittenberg
Mr. Dart:
It was a great pleasure to meet you while you were in Birmingham, Alabama. I am enclosing the contents with the hope that it is not too late. Thought you would be interested in that article on Hospital regulation in the state of New York. First: I would like to thank Atty. General Don Siegelman for setting up regional hearings all over Alabama, and giving me the privilege of having a small part of the proceedings.A deaf man was taken to the hospital after a heart attack. He was put under an oxygen tent. He was doing fine until the next day when the doctor came to check on him. Suddenly that man started to gesture wildly, much to the puzzlement of the doctor. The man passed away. Now, for want of an interpreter or a pad and pencil, that man died.
What he was trying to tell the doctor was that he, the doctor, had his feet on the oxygen tube, thereby shutting off the flow of oxygen. Before you folks here go for your hankies and shed a tear, I wish to say that this is only a hypothetical situation.
Such a situation could occur. I would like to see the State Hospital Code include regulation concerning interpreter and other communication services by general hospitals. Hospitals will be required to advise hearing impaired patients of their rights, including right to receive the assistance of an interpreter.
Not long ago I read somewhere that the State of New York had such a code and it might be to the advantage of the Commission to get a copy of such regulations from the State of New York Planning Council for Hospitals. My eye specialist has a number of deaf clients. He requires them to bring their own interpreter and assume cost of same. I use my daughter as my interpreter. There are others like him.
Maybe some doctors do not like to waste too much time with a pad and pencil.
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Mike Holsombeck
Dear Mr. Dart:
I regret that I will be unable to speak at the Public Forum which is being held in Birmingham on August 16, 1988. I would, however, like to submit my written testimony to you in the form of this letter.In June 1977 I went to try to get Vocational Rehabilitation Services, but the counselor said he could NOT help me because I had Cerebral Palsy. This made me very angry because after he told me this he went ahead and gave me all of his tests which I scored very high on.
Even after seeing the test results he still said that he could not help me because I have Cerebral Palsy.After enrolling at Jefferson State Junior College in 1982 several of the advisors started trying to get me help from Vocational Rehabilitation Service, but to no avail. In the spring of 1981 I first started going to Jefferson State. I was riding what was at that time a Positive Maturity bus.This bus took me for a quarter and a half, but all at once “they” Positive Maturity stopped and said they could not take me anymore because the school was so far out. This caused me to have to make other arrangements regarding transportation, which was a headache.
On August 4, 1988 in the Birmingham Post Herald I was referred to as a Cerebral Palsy “victim” instead of an individual who has Cerebral Palsy.
Thank you for your time and consideration regarding this testimony. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
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H. Milton Datnoff
As an accessible design consultant, I tend to focus on such inaccessible environmental situations such as housing, parking, public access, public accommodations, and restrooms.This is to say that I am most concerned with the general unavailability of barrier-free environments on both a public and residential basis. On a daily basis, I must say that the type of discrimination that I experience regularly is strictly environments of nature.
A second form of discrimination is the unavailability of medical insurance to individuals who have a pre-existing condition. If you can locate this type of insurance, it is often much too expensive due to the higher risk that disabled individuals have. This is a prime example of “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.”
As regards to job discrimination, it’s very difficult to prove that you have been denied a job strictly due to a handicap, I can’t honestly say that I have experienced this type of discrimination, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Who knows what actually goes on in the mind of an interviewer – it may be fear, paranoia, insecurity, etc…or it may be that I don’t meet the intellectual or career qualifications.
To come and think of it, I have experienced discrimination at gas stations where the attendants refuse to pump gas at the “self serve” prices. It would be good customer relations to provide this service to the station’s handicapped patrons. A handicap should not restrict one’s freedom of choice in this situation or any other situation. Finally, the insurance industry needs to change the definition of what comprises a “medical necessity.”
For instance, hand controls are in my opinion, a necessity, not a luxury
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